What makes a college basketball rivalry?
I’ve thought about this question a lot in context of the rivalry between the Providence Friars and the Rhode Island Rams. I’ve thought about what makes this rivalry great. Is it the long history between these two programs? Is the rivalry made great because of the recent successes of both team? What about the new players that automatically become part of the history and lore of this rivalry every year?
I would argue that a rivalry is made great by the fans.
So, for today’s Five Point Play I decide to do a little research, social media style, and spoke with both URI and PC fans about their own history with the rivalry, their perception on their own team and what their feelings are about the other. The responses often surprised me. Let’s dive in.
1. A Straight-Up Disdain
For some fans, the root of the PC-URI rivalry is that they simply can’t stand the other side’s fanbase.
This became clear as I spoke to fans on both sides and asked them to explain their feelings. Typically, URI fans felt that PC fans were entitled and obnoxious, acting as if they’d gone to the Sweet 16 every year under Cooley. They also feel that PC tries to shun them, acting as if the game isn’t important, while the game is actually a sellout every year and they should acknowledge that.
It’s Friar fans way of belittling Rhody. But we all know that URI is always their most well attended OOC game and it’s a huge deal for the state and the city. And most reasonable Friar fans know that too, it’s just their way of taking a shot.
— David (@DFC1074) November 29, 2018
Friar fans, on the other hand, feel that Rhody fans are self-righteous about their own team and that they also don’t “pay tribute” to the fact that the Friars have beaten them more often. Some also feel that Rhody fans “dish it out” but can’t “take it in” when it’s given back to them.
Rhody fans love to dish it out; but can’t take it back. The same fans that cried when our students had papers saying mean things screamed “F PC”! In full throat. Nothing better than drinking their tears at the Homestead “I thought this was our year”. #7/8 #wheresdanny pic.twitter.com/kOwMzVPSh6
— seanmcnamara (@72seanmcnamara) November 28, 2018
This is pretty surface level and certainly not true of all fans by any means, but a good percentage of the ones I communicated with had no affinity for the other team at all – a definite fan “thing” more than an actual team or school issue.
2. The Side-Switchers
One of the most interesting parts of this rivalry are the allegiances – and how they don’t always remain constant.
In several of the conversations I had with fans, it seemed that some of them had started by loving one team, only to switch to the other at some point down the line. This typically happened with PC fans who grew up liking the Friars, but then attended URI and found themselves rooting for their new team in Keaney Blue.
Rhody fan since 1979 when I went to URI. Was a PC fan when I was young. The issue with many PC fans is they jump on the bandwagon when PC is doing well. Many are obnoxious. PC has won 1 NCAA Tournament game under Cooley but they act like they have been to the Sweet 16 every year.
— Dave Cotter (@cotter_dave) November 30, 2018
I was born into being a Friar fan, but really became a die hard during the Gomes/McGrath era. My fiancé is a URI grad converted PC fan, season ticket holders as of this year. URI is easy to hate because their 95% of their fans are insufferable & I couldn’t stand Hurley. #GoFriars
— Brendon Jennings (@BrendonJennings) November 28, 2018
While this is understandable, what I found most interesting here is that initially these fans wanted both teams to do well, but over time that feeling evolved into a definite preference for the team associated with the school they attended. What’s even more interesting to me, however, are the fans who don’t change…
3. Deep in Enemy Territory
Of all the responses I got, perhaps the most curious were the fans of one team who would attend the other school but remain loyal to the team of the school they were not attending.
This, again, seemed more common with PC fans going to URI, but remaining loyal to the Friars – much to the chagrin of their URI peers.
Diehard Friars fan since I was born 21 years ago since my dad has had season tickets my entire life and always brought me to games, and I hate URI because I go here and everyone mocks my love for the Friars and tells me to transfer on a daily basis
— Chris Jalbert (@c_jalbert) November 28, 2018
Grew up a PC fan because my mom worked at the bank in the Slavin Center. Was 10 during Final 4 run & a Billy Donovan fan. I went to URI & haven’t cared about PC since. I’m a 98 grad; great time to be at Rhody. URI grads who want PC to beat URI enrage me. I want PC to fail badly.
— Chris B (@CBro33) November 29, 2018
It’s hard to say what’s more interesting to me – fans who change their allegiance from one side of the rivalry to the other, or fans who cheer for one team while enmeshed in the other’s community. I think this speaks to the rivalry’s fun, and really does highlight the importance of the fandom community. Some seem to adopt a new fandom when they adopted a new community, and others seem to passively enjoy being a point of contention among their community – a la being a Red Sox fan in New York, or a Patriots fan literally anywhere other than in New England. Not only does it add a little spice, it keeps things interesting and exciting. Another group of fans seem to be loyal to the state and actually do pull for both teams in general – but do take a side when the two teams play each other.
I actually graduated from URI so I hope they do well except for 1 game every year.
— Andrew Sanford (@TheSanford1) November 29, 2018
4. The Bragging Rights – or Lack Thereof
Hey, surprise-surprise: fans of one team want their team to win so they can brag about it.
I think this is particularly important in this rivalry because of the proximity of the two schools and the size of the state itself. Friends no doubt know friends who went to one of the schools while they attended the other, and that means they can give each other the business when their team wins or the other team loses.
Diehard Rhody fan been going to games since 85. Best memory is when we ran the Gordie Chiesa coached team off the PCC floor by 20+. Always an electric environment at either venue. Funny when PC fans says it’s just another game for them.
— David (@DFC1074) November 29, 2018
My Dad had season tickets since the Civic Center opened, I’ve been a Friar Fan my entire life, and a proud member of the @PCFriars1993 Sixth Man Society. Every year PC wins I enjoy posting about it and tagging and taunting my friends that went to URI.
— Amy Goggin (@AmyBethGoggin) November 29, 2018
But maybe even more important than the bragging rights for your own team is knowing that the other side will have to “shut up” about their own team. The other side losing the rivalry game is, for many, a muzzle on the smack talk for 11 months; an effective cease-fire.
No honestly that would be BC because I truly hate them. I just dont want to hear it from my friends who r uri fans for the next year. I have uri on the same level as nova, where I also have numerous friends who are fans. Wish them the best except when PC plays them.
— James Hagan (@pc2005) November 28, 2018
And some fans really don’t view URI as their legitimate rival in the sense that URI is not as hated as a BC or UCONN. They simply don’t want to have to hear about URI-PC from their URI friends and peers. They’d rather place their attention elsewhere on other teams they dislike considerably more.
5. It’s All Part of the Story
I have spoken to many fans for both PC and URI during the writing of this story, and I’ve learned a lot. Perhaps the thing I’ve heard most frequently is that the rivalry drives their fandom.
3rd generation alum of PC. Family has had season tixs since alumni opened in 58. No hatred for uri, many friends have gone there. With that said want to win by at least 30 every time we play
— James Hagan (@pc2005) November 28, 2018
Second generation Friar fan who grew up in south county. A bunch of my friends went to Rhody (also my brother). They got me the Friends don’t let friends go to PC shirt. I’ve had season tix since I graduated. Love the hatred that is spewed at the Ryan Center.
— seanmcnamara (@72seanmcnamara) November 28, 2018
I’ve been a uri fan since I came out of the womb in 1988 … the Keaney gym days I am a fan becuase both my parents went there and I grew up watching them I HATE PC because duh 🙄 you just do if you are a uri fan, that’s just the way it is #gorhody
— lrl (@liannall) November 29, 2018
Rhody fan because of my dad. I hate PC more than anything else on the planet. Their fans are insufferable swine. PC broke my heart too many times.
— Max 🇺🇸 (@maxs401) November 29, 2018
In all of these tweets there a couple of common elements: they love their team, they hate the other, and there’s some family or friend connection that really ties them to this rivalry.
The rivalry isn’t about the color of the jersey, the name of the team, or the mascot you root for. It’s about the connection and the emotion associated with that.
One story I received was a private message from a woman named Lisa Holley. Lisa grew up a PC fan but now has a URI logo as her Twitter profile. She responded to my tweet asking for stories about experiences with the rivalry with her own anecdote.
Lisa told me about a time when her mother had been ill, eventually passing away in September 2014. During her mourning, her husband had gotten her a surprise to lift her spirits. Thinking it was a trip to somewhere warm, she was surprised to learn it was season tickets to URI basketball – especially shocking since she was a PC fan. Her husband explained that he had met URI coach, Dan Hurley, who told him about what he felt was a mega-talented incoming recruiting class being talented and what a great season it promised to be.
Lisa reluctantly went to a game, mindful of her PC fandom, only to fall in love with the Ryan Center, the atmosphere, and the fact that the Rams were another local team that could use – and deserved – support.
But for Lisa, it’s not really about a gym or a team. To her, these tickets and her newly sparked passion for URI came as a lasting gift from her late mother, who was a huge college basketball fan. The Rams brought Lisa closer to her passed mother at a time she needed it, and URI became her team because of that connection.
I know on my side I can think of so many stories that keep me a Friars fan that have nothing to do with basketball at all. The rivalry and basketball are just conduits that, in a way, bring us all closer to something more important, whether that something be loved ones, community, or just positive life experiences.